Message 22794 of 22796

Thu Nov 24, 2005  4:05 pm 

 First I thank N0by  for the ban.
 Atleast he has taken a right decision  at right time as  a group moderator.

I made the sleeping lion to wake up

N0by still believes I am James Christopher.I have immediately send my photo and shared some personal details in the group already in the name Jeevan.But he want to believe me as a 55 years old man than as a 33 years old man.I take it as a honour that I have wisdom of 55 years old.

 I feel because of me only he was forced to openly declare himself as a Western Guru.

He mocks enlightenment and wisdom of sages,saints,yogis,wiseman.

Scientists  discover or invent new things and naming it.

Like that those who made inner search came to know certain TRUTH.

And they are calling it by different name.Since ordinary people cannot experience it is not

a bluff.

When Ramakrishna ParamaHamsa , Ramana , Krishna , Shiva , Adi Sankara,Buddha

OSHO and Zen Masters and some Western masters  say there is a stage NIRVIKALPA SAMADHI or ENLIGHTENMENT it is not to cheat any one.They shared their wisdom and showed path and techniques so that people can awaken and get out of misery.You might ask 'how can you say it is true.have you experienced.'Here TRUST is necessary and not blind faith. I am not saying that believe me but rather TRUST THE GREAT MASTERS.

COURAGE to experiment what they have told is absolute necessity.Why people surround them even though most of them remained as beggars.They should have felt some thing different and prompted them to get guidance .I have gone through tremendous transformation in the right direction through meditation.My deep respects and love to all masters.

In their vocabulary Master means who conquered his own self.It is not a control over others.They only showered Love.Knowledge of  inner truth  is enlightenment (not book wisdom)and knowledge about others is wisdom

Ordinary life of wise people is different from ordinary life of common people.When wise people rise above society and help society to grow, ordinary people are in control of the society either exploiting or being exploited by the society.They don't know how to conquer their own self or how to come out of the society's powerful hands.

N0by might claim there is no such thing called ENLIGHTENMENT or SAMADHI.Because he has no patience.And he claims ordinary life of common people is the end.Life has many realms of existence.If he just hiding his enlightenment and act as a normal person it is fine.

But if he really feels that there is no such things like ENLIGHTENMENT he might have failed miserably in life.That is why he is acting as a HEN PECKED HUSBAND and still claim himself as a WESTERN GURU.Ofcourse it his life. Let him live his own dreams and he has the absolute right and freedom

Once again thank you N0by for giving so much freedom of expression up to now.In my life I have gained understanding only through the above mentioned Masters and I know I am not going to gain anything from N0by's personal daily life experiences.Don't think that I am too much serious.Sharing personal life experiences is due to mutual trust and respect only and it  adds the beauty.

N0by, convey my love to your life partner MIMAMAI and  your little daughter who believes  her Daddy is a REAL MONSTER .In her later life she will come to know the real TRUTH.May be N0by himself will become enlightened in due course if not already

I am not particularly binded to any Masters and I am not claiming any one is superior over others in terms of realization but they might have different approach when guiding the people.Neutral persons are always doubted.

N0by,Beloved Zora, Paddy,Hans,Valerie,Ana,Anand,Kartar,David,Adhithya,George Maddux,Kabir,Prakki,Graeme,Caminamos and all other friends --thank you all for sharing

your understanding,love,experience,books,audiofiles.

I decided to start a new group where I feel I have  unlimited freedom to share my experiences,thoughts while respecting all Masters existed before and giving equal respect to the members of the group and their contributions.

I don't know the personal e-mail of all friends and so I request you to send even a blank mail showing your interest to my mail id cosmic_jeeva@yahoo.com.  Once I created the new group I will intimate and invite you for joining the group.

If interested Noby also can join the group and enjoy the Indian hospitality

N0by might claim that he banned  me just for my growth in understanding but I am not convinced about his approach until now.I have also had in my mind to start own group and the situation provided right context.

Thanks and Love to ALL,

Jeeva

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